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	<title>Comments on: Weyl on good and evil</title>
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		<title>By: octracker</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/2006/03/02/weyl-on-good-and-evil/#comment-498</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have met the devil and his name is Nicolas Bourbaki.]]></description>
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		<title>By: KorayC</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/2006/03/02/weyl-on-good-and-evil/#comment-489</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2006 23:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
You can develop incredible insight into how those symbols behave, but youâ€™re not doing geometry.
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But isn&#039;t that what&#039;s precisely nice about mathematics that I don&#039;t have to develop the intuition to do geometry, physics, etc. ? Intuition is certainly good to have and I wish I had it for all kinds of subjects, but there&#039;s no methodical way to develop it.]]></description>
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You can develop incredible insight into how those symbols behave, but youâ€™re not doing geometry.
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<p>But isn&#8217;t that what&#8217;s precisely nice about mathematics that I don&#8217;t have to develop the intuition to do geometry, physics, etc. ? Intuition is certainly good to have and I wish I had it for all kinds of subjects, but there&#8217;s no methodical way to develop it.</p>
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		<title>By: PeterMcB</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are correct, Sigfpe, that algebra allows geometry to be done by people without geometric intuition.  But what is the nature of this intuition?  I doubt anyone had or has any *inherent* intuition for non-Euclidean geometry, since our entire every-day experience as children is Euclidean. Physicists only started to think that the Universe may be better modeled with a non-Euclidean geometry after such geometries had been developed by those clever algebraists, Gauss, Bolyai and Riemann.  Some other clever people --eg, Frege -- simply could not accept that non-Euclidean geometry was more than abstract nonsense, unconnected to anything in the real world.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct, Sigfpe, that algebra allows geometry to be done by people without geometric intuition.  But what is the nature of this intuition?  I doubt anyone had or has any *inherent* intuition for non-Euclidean geometry, since our entire every-day experience as children is Euclidean. Physicists only started to think that the Universe may be better modeled with a non-Euclidean geometry after such geometries had been developed by those clever algebraists, Gauss, Bolyai and Riemann.  Some other clever people &#8211;eg, Frege &#8212; simply could not accept that non-Euclidean geometry was more than abstract nonsense, unconnected to anything in the real world.</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[make that &quot;one&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>make that &#8220;one&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/2006/03/02/weyl-on-good-and-evil/#comment-485</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 02:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I for onw revel in my devilishness]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I for onw revel in my devilishness</p>
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		<title>By: sigfpe</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Instead of learning to solve the problem algebra allows you instead to manipulate symbols. The Devil&#039;s minion, Descartes, allowed people with no geometrical insight to start proving theorems about geometry. You can develop incredible insight into how those symbols behave, but you&#039;re not doing geometry. Even worse, people can be so far removed that they even fail to realise that they are doing geometry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of learning to solve the problem algebra allows you instead to manipulate symbols. The Devil&#8217;s minion, Descartes, allowed people with no geometrical insight to start proving theorems about geometry. You can develop incredible insight into how those symbols behave, but you&#8217;re not doing geometry. Even worse, people can be so far removed that they even fail to realise that they are doing geometry.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 21:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ford: I wondered the same thing about algebra being the devil, which probably demonstrates that we&#039;re both irretrievably damned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ford: I wondered the same thing about algebra being the devil, which probably demonstrates that we&#8217;re both irretrievably damned.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 16:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of Atiyah&#039;s comments regarding the &quot;Faustian Offer&quot; in &quot;Mathematics in the 20th Century&quot; (Bull. of the London Math. Soc. 34 (2002) 1-15) (or see duch.mimuw.edu.pl/~sjack/atiyah.ps).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of Atiyah&#8217;s comments regarding the &#8220;Faustian Offer&#8221; in &#8220;Mathematics in the 20th Century&#8221; (Bull. of the London Math. Soc. 34 (2002) 1-15) (or see duch.mimuw.edu.pl/~sjack/atiyah.ps).</p>
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		<title>By: ford</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How is topology/category theory winning?

Why is Abstract Algebra cast as &quot;the devil&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is topology/category theory winning?</p>
<p>Why is Abstract Algebra cast as &#8220;the devil&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You forgot the second sentence. &quot;And the devil is winning.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot the second sentence. &#8220;And the devil is winning.&#8221;</p>
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