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		<title>By: tdstephens3</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/archives/2007/01/28/quoted-without-comment/#comment-4178</link>
		<dc:creator>tdstephens3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 04:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...the context...results oriented programs will not "create" more mathematicians/scientists.  The position of scientist requires far more than good test scores.  Please pick up on this, the culture of the scientist is unique and poorly understood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;the context&#8230;results oriented programs will not &#8220;create&#8221; more mathematicians/scientists.  The position of scientist requires far more than good test scores.  Please pick up on this, the culture of the scientist is unique and poorly understood.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/archives/2007/01/28/quoted-without-comment/#comment-3876</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Feb 2007 05:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan: That's like the greatest story ever.  Clearly you were destined to double major solely so someone could say that to you someday.  I see now that everything is foreordained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan: That&#8217;s like the greatest story ever.  Clearly you were destined to double major solely so someone could say that to you someday.  I see now that everything is foreordained.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/archives/2007/01/28/quoted-without-comment/#comment-3813</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps a response should be that as a Math major you understand the difference between discrete and continuous data, so as an English major you know that “10 items or less” is poor English.
(see Bad marks for Tesco near the bottom of http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1971445,00.html and Pedants' revolt near the bottom of http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1971445,00.html )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps a response should be that as a Math major you understand the difference between discrete and continuous data, so as an English major you know that “10 items or less” is poor English.<br />
(see Bad marks for Tesco near the bottom of <a href="http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1971445,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1971445,00.html</a> and Pedants&#8217; revolt near the bottom of <a href="http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1971445,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,,1971445,00.html</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Vos Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the owner of a rare double B.S. in Mathematics and English Literature from Caltech (1973), this notion struck home.

Not as painfully, I should add, as the time that I was at the "10 items or less" line at a Pasadena grocery store, with roughly 17 items plunked down near the cash register.  I was wearing a Caltech sweatshirt.

"Are you an English Major who can't count," asked the cashier, "or a Math major who can't read?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the owner of a rare double B.S. in Mathematics and English Literature from Caltech (1973), this notion struck home.</p>
<p>Not as painfully, I should add, as the time that I was at the &#8220;10 items or less&#8221; line at a Pasadena grocery store, with roughly 17 items plunked down near the cash register.  I was wearing a Caltech sweatshirt.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you an English Major who can&#8217;t count,&#8221; asked the cashier, &#8220;or a Math major who can&#8217;t read?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose that I would like them more if I were any good at them, but I am in Walt "adjoint functors are bunk" Pohl's camp on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose that I would like them more if I were any good at them, but I am in Walt &#8220;adjoint functors are bunk&#8221; Pohl&#8217;s camp on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 15:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this a minority opinion, but I don't really like the idea of math competitions.  I always refused to do things like the Putnam, for example.  I don't mind competition in general, but I dislike it for things of intrinsic importance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this a minority opinion, but I don&#8217;t really like the idea of math competitions.  I always refused to do things like the Putnam, for example.  I don&#8217;t mind competition in general, but I dislike it for things of intrinsic importance.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre Borovik</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/archives/2007/01/28/quoted-without-comment/#comment-3125</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre Borovik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not feel that the proportion set in the comment by tdstephens3 is well balanced. I would formulate it in a bit more careful way:

&lt;i&gt;Mathematicians aren’t born from log table memorizing competitions in the same way that poets do not grow out of spelling bees.&lt;/i&gt;

Basically, spelling bees have nothing to do with poetry, while a decent maths competition problem most definitely belongs to mathematics. 

And maths competitions are not spelling bees!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not feel that the proportion set in the comment by tdstephens3 is well balanced. I would formulate it in a bit more careful way:</p>
<p><i>Mathematicians aren’t born from log table memorizing competitions in the same way that poets do not grow out of spelling bees.</i></p>
<p>Basically, spelling bees have nothing to do with poetry, while a decent maths competition problem most definitely belongs to mathematics. </p>
<p>And maths competitions are not spelling bees!</p>
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		<title>By: Mikael Johansson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikael Johansson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also Terence Tao is famous for his history with and later engagement for the mathematical olympiads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Terence Tao is famous for his history with and later engagement for the mathematical olympiads.</p>
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		<title>By: serg</title>
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		<dc:creator>serg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 06:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However Perelman had grown out of school math competitions and mathematical olympiads...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However Perelman had grown out of school math competitions and mathematical olympiads&#8230;</p>
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