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	<title>Comments on: Time Is Short</title>
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		<title>By: Chris Hillman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Hillman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netizens of Earth (human or otherwise):

Here's the problem: we don't know how scientifically advanced the aliens are, just that they are more advanced than we are, they'll be here Very Soon, and they probably won't be friendly.   So how can we militarily deter an ARBITRARILY advanced opponent?

Only one solution seems possible: by a natural evolution of the MAD strategy (mutual assured destruction) which avoided (if only very narrowly) nuclear war during the Cold War, it is neccessary to develop the capability to destroy the universe itself.  Only then can we hope to deter an arbitrarily advanced alien civilization from acting in any way inimical to our interest.

Sir Roger Penrose has suggested a suitable scheme: produce a gravitational wave which develops a null curvature singularity which destroys the universe as it propagates (at the speed of light, so evasion is futile).  Such waves are certainly permitted by our gold standard theory of gravitation, general relativity, since one can easily write down simple exact solutions (certain pp-waves) having this property.  So the only question is how to generate such a "wave of death".  Or  more precisely, a "thunderbolt" which only destroys spacetime along the direction of a beam of radiation.  Fear not, work is in progress and (according to well-informed sources) is nearing the experimental stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netizens of Earth (human or otherwise):</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the problem: we don&#8217;t know how scientifically advanced the aliens are, just that they are more advanced than we are, they&#8217;ll be here Very Soon, and they probably won&#8217;t be friendly.   So how can we militarily deter an ARBITRARILY advanced opponent?</p>
<p>Only one solution seems possible: by a natural evolution of the MAD strategy (mutual assured destruction) which avoided (if only very narrowly) nuclear war during the Cold War, it is neccessary to develop the capability to destroy the universe itself.  Only then can we hope to deter an arbitrarily advanced alien civilization from acting in any way inimical to our interest.</p>
<p>Sir Roger Penrose has suggested a suitable scheme: produce a gravitational wave which develops a null curvature singularity which destroys the universe as it propagates (at the speed of light, so evasion is futile).  Such waves are certainly permitted by our gold standard theory of gravitation, general relativity, since one can easily write down simple exact solutions (certain pp-waves) having this property.  So the only question is how to generate such a &#8220;wave of death&#8221;.  Or  more precisely, a &#8220;thunderbolt&#8221; which only destroys spacetime along the direction of a beam of radiation.  Fear not, work is in progress and (according to well-informed sources) is nearing the experimental stage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Vos Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 02:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science Forum about Starflight without warp drive featuring Geoffrey A. Landis, David Brin, Robert L. Forward, and Jonathan Vos Post.

www.sff.net/people/Geoffrey.Landis/stl.htp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science Forum about Starflight without warp drive featuring Geoffrey A. Landis, David Brin, Robert L. Forward, and Jonathan Vos Post.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sff.net/people/Geoffrey.Landis/stl.htp" rel="nofollow">http://www.sff.net/people/Geoffrey.Landis/stl.htp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we ... are ... so ... uncool. All the other species have FTL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we &#8230; are &#8230; so &#8230; uncool. All the other species have FTL.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/archives/2007/04/27/time-is-short/#comment-32085</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, being so close, it is far more probable that denizens of that planet are already here on Earth than that they have yet to arrive.  Hungarians -- at last, your secret is revealed!

This new planet is close enough to eliminate any claims for alien primacy by the Dogon people of  Mali, with their (supposedly) advanced knowledge of astronomy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people#Controversy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, being so close, it is far more probable that denizens of that planet are already here on Earth than that they have yet to arrive.  Hungarians &#8212; at last, your secret is revealed!</p>
<p>This new planet is close enough to eliminate any claims for alien primacy by the Dogon people of  Mali, with their (supposedly) advanced knowledge of astronomy:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people#Controversy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogon_people#Controversy</a></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Massey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Massey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their planet killing machines are massless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their planet killing machines are massless?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Vos Post</title>
		<link>http://www.arsmathematica.net/archives/2007/04/27/time-is-short/#comment-31812</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Vos Post</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 19:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>41 years -- that's a prime number of years.  What remains are the prime years of our lives.  This is a crank comment.  The kryptonite discovered in a mine in Serbia is white kryptonite. The search for red, green, Bizarro, and other kryptonites is highly classified, by Homeplanet Defense.

By the way, today, 28 April 2007, is the 101st birthday of Kurt Gödel. 101 years is a prime number of years. This comment refers to itself. So does this sentence.

"This sentence contains ten words, eighteen syllables, and sixty-four letters."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>41 years &#8212; that&#8217;s a prime number of years.  What remains are the prime years of our lives.  This is a crank comment.  The kryptonite discovered in a mine in Serbia is white kryptonite. The search for red, green, Bizarro, and other kryptonites is highly classified, by Homeplanet Defense.</p>
<p>By the way, today, 28 April 2007, is the 101st birthday of Kurt Gödel. 101 years is a prime number of years. This comment refers to itself. So does this sentence.</p>
<p>&#8220;This sentence contains ten words, eighteen syllables, and sixty-four letters.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: John Armstrong</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 06:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worse yet, they're coming from a planet orbiting a red sun.  Bathed in the rays of our yellow sun they'll be unstoppable.</description>
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